xs2sharad
11-17 10:49 PM
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Naveen
05-04 09:03 PM
thanks vbkris,
I was about to post similar reply.
Naveen,
We need INA language. nothing more nothing less.
All,
As of this post. I could not find the law linking ebdependents with ebquota.
wow its pouring reds and uncivilised comments for pointing out this. Ok. well i am going to continue anyway!
INA: ACT 203 - ALLOCATION OF IMMIGRANT VISAS \ Act 203(c) \ Section (d)
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=setDoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=2dae084742aac42ac9134cc4466287e7
(d) Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
I was about to post similar reply.
Naveen,
We need INA language. nothing more nothing less.
All,
As of this post. I could not find the law linking ebdependents with ebquota.
wow its pouring reds and uncivilised comments for pointing out this. Ok. well i am going to continue anyway!
INA: ACT 203 - ALLOCATION OF IMMIGRANT VISAS \ Act 203(c) \ Section (d)
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=setDoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=2dae084742aac42ac9134cc4466287e7
(d) Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
adde72
07-06 04:53 PM
DC is the right place even on a weekend also just protesting infront of the uscis office will get media attention .....we should plan for this.i know less than 1000 people will be a failure ..can we try to get the mood of the IV for this kind of event ...
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stemcell
02-01 10:25 AM
I have been thinking in similar lines for quite sometime now. I have decided to wait till September 2012 to see if dates reach my PD which is October 2007.
If not i am strongly looking at New Zealand too...At least for me i want to work/live in a western country as locums and relax in India when i am off...I dont see myself working in India full time, at least not at this point.
This may not work for most folks but being in Health Care, i have this option.
I wish you the very best !
If not i am strongly looking at New Zealand too...At least for me i want to work/live in a western country as locums and relax in India when i am off...I dont see myself working in India full time, at least not at this point.
This may not work for most folks but being in Health Care, i have this option.
I wish you the very best !
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aniraj
02-03 03:37 PM
All the best to you. You must have thought & compared all the limitations.
In my opinion the issues, advantages & disadvantages change from country to country. It depends on a person how S/He applies those yardsticks during & to particular circumstances. One thing I can not agree more about is the opportunities in education available in US compared to India. I know people will be all over me after saying this but inspite of cost being the factor (which unfortunately is also a factor in case of some good institutions in India now) the avenues available to young generation in US irrespective of their cast/religion/race & financial ability is comparitively greater in US.
More importantly most of us will be able to adjust to changes relatively quickly but if we have kids who are raised in this system & are at high school level it will be really challanging for them to enter the system in India.
In my opinion the issues, advantages & disadvantages change from country to country. It depends on a person how S/He applies those yardsticks during & to particular circumstances. One thing I can not agree more about is the opportunities in education available in US compared to India. I know people will be all over me after saying this but inspite of cost being the factor (which unfortunately is also a factor in case of some good institutions in India now) the avenues available to young generation in US irrespective of their cast/religion/race & financial ability is comparitively greater in US.
More importantly most of us will be able to adjust to changes relatively quickly but if we have kids who are raised in this system & are at high school level it will be really challanging for them to enter the system in India.
virtual55
05-02 09:55 PM
http://cornyn.senate.gov/index.asp?f=record&lid=1&rid=237170
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sathweb
01-30 01:05 PM
You are already out of status as H1 accounts for continuous employment along with regular pay. H1 visa, job and pay go hand in hand. Any one component missing means you are out of status.
There is no grace period. As the earlier member said, it is a gray area without any specific guidelines. I have seen people stay out of job (status) for 4 months and have used portability or consulate stamp upon getting a new job. It all depends on the IO.
BTW, did you ever realize how unethical it is to use a consultant for acquiring a H1 visa without actually having a fulltime job? For last 7 years I am on H1 myself and have played by rules… I hate people who false represent the facts for immigration benefits.
Because of people like you genuine candidates who have legitimate jobs are left out as you guys get lucky in the lottery even though you don’t have a regular fulltime job. My wife was forced to stay at home for almost 3 years because of people like you.. FYI she had a job offer (from a F500 Inc.) but people like you got lucky when it came to H1 lottery. Not just that but people like you give a bad name to legal immigrant community.
What’s your problem man? You are mad because your wife did not get H1B/Job? What do you say to a American citizen who is saying that you took his job? It’s all part of the game. Everyone is trying to improve their life.
How can you tell your wife is better? Your wife is doing exactly the same, converting from H4 to H1B. Did she have job offer when she came to USA? You must have come through some consulting company, what kind of offer letter you had when you came to US?
Everyone is playing by the rules, otherwise we would not have been here. dont think you are the only one playing by the rules.
How can you tell he/she is representing false?
People like you are the ones who are dividing the community.
There is no grace period. As the earlier member said, it is a gray area without any specific guidelines. I have seen people stay out of job (status) for 4 months and have used portability or consulate stamp upon getting a new job. It all depends on the IO.
BTW, did you ever realize how unethical it is to use a consultant for acquiring a H1 visa without actually having a fulltime job? For last 7 years I am on H1 myself and have played by rules… I hate people who false represent the facts for immigration benefits.
Because of people like you genuine candidates who have legitimate jobs are left out as you guys get lucky in the lottery even though you don’t have a regular fulltime job. My wife was forced to stay at home for almost 3 years because of people like you.. FYI she had a job offer (from a F500 Inc.) but people like you got lucky when it came to H1 lottery. Not just that but people like you give a bad name to legal immigrant community.
What’s your problem man? You are mad because your wife did not get H1B/Job? What do you say to a American citizen who is saying that you took his job? It’s all part of the game. Everyone is trying to improve their life.
How can you tell your wife is better? Your wife is doing exactly the same, converting from H4 to H1B. Did she have job offer when she came to USA? You must have come through some consulting company, what kind of offer letter you had when you came to US?
Everyone is playing by the rules, otherwise we would not have been here. dont think you are the only one playing by the rules.
How can you tell he/she is representing false?
People like you are the ones who are dividing the community.
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vjverma
07-19 10:07 PM
count me in for a 100 as well.
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ghost
09-23 02:07 PM
It's very selfish of rsharma....shameful!
I've applied in EB-3 in 2006 but was unable to port my PD because I was not aware of the fact that you need an approved 140 for porting. I've changed my jobs in Dec 2006 and now applied in EB-2 in 2008 with my current company.
I don't mind waiting longer (it's been 11 years) if EB-3 folks are porting to EB-2 because they've gained the necessary experience and have every right to get their GC just like EB-2 folks. Let's not try to tear each other down.
Good luck to all of us!
I've applied in EB-3 in 2006 but was unable to port my PD because I was not aware of the fact that you need an approved 140 for porting. I've changed my jobs in Dec 2006 and now applied in EB-2 in 2008 with my current company.
I don't mind waiting longer (it's been 11 years) if EB-3 folks are porting to EB-2 because they've gained the necessary experience and have every right to get their GC just like EB-2 folks. Let's not try to tear each other down.
Good luck to all of us!
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ub27
07-29 08:53 AM
Recieved an email just now. Status was updated to card production ordered.
Paper filed at TSC on May 22, 2008
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on July 25 (Previous update was on May 25)
Current status: Card production ordered.
Waiting till I get the card .........
Just got an e-mail telling my approval notice for EAD was mailed:
Paper filed at TSC on May 22
On July 28, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765
Paper filed at TSC on May 22, 2008
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on July 25 (Previous update was on May 25)
Current status: Card production ordered.
Waiting till I get the card .........
Just got an e-mail telling my approval notice for EAD was mailed:
Paper filed at TSC on May 22
On July 28, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765
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leoindiano
12-26 10:40 AM
I received FP notices for myself and spouse on Saturday, Dec 22 for FP at the Charlotte office on Jan 11.
- gchopes.
GCHOPES,
My case transferred from TSC to VSC to TSC, I am from charlotte too. Did you had to do anything to get FP? My application reached USCIS on august 3rd. We got all except FP.
- gchopes.
GCHOPES,
My case transferred from TSC to VSC to TSC, I am from charlotte too. Did you had to do anything to get FP? My application reached USCIS on august 3rd. We got all except FP.
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amitjoey
07-10 04:44 PM
I have arranged to send the flowers so they reach USCIS on 10 July.
Incidentally, there was a townhall meeting with Senator Bob Casey in Pittsburgh. Thankfully i got to speak with him and personally put forth our story of endless waits for a greencard. Am not sure if it will genrate any tangible action from his end, but it certainly drew attention of the public present there, his staff and mostly importantly the Senator's mindshare.
Let's keep this effort on..
Thanks for your effort.
Incidentally, there was a townhall meeting with Senator Bob Casey in Pittsburgh. Thankfully i got to speak with him and personally put forth our story of endless waits for a greencard. Am not sure if it will genrate any tangible action from his end, but it certainly drew attention of the public present there, his staff and mostly importantly the Senator's mindshare.
Let's keep this effort on..
Thanks for your effort.
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nashorn
08-12 03:50 AM
On the same boat. I140 approved at TSC, 485 filed at NSC on 7/2, nothing yet. Can we get a poll here? Thread is so long already.
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ksach
03-08 05:27 PM
We are actually like the Gandhi's of our modern times. Much before MLK and much much before Gandhi fought for the Indian independence from the British, he fought for the rights of Indian labourers in South Africa. His slogan for that fight (bloodless ofcourse) was "One King, One Law". Maybe ours should be, "One land, One Law" . One should watch the movie "Gandhi", made by Richard Attenborough in 1983. Pretty Impressive. And Pretty Ironic too. It took a Britisher to make a good movie about a person who fought the British.
Guys,
We are like MLK of our modern times. Just observe that it may take a long time to change this. Actual outcome of our efforts may come to fruition in 10-20 years from now. It is the reality folks.
The only problem is that MLK was a US citizen. We are not. We have a very bad mood against us. Like it or not, to our disadvantage we have all sentiment against illegal immigration spilling over us as well. Let me tell you, I no longer discuss, comment or let Americans, not even close people know about my situation. Do you know why? People actually may not tell you, but the vast majority of Americans actually are delighted when we say we and our wives live with such restrictions.
My conclusion is this:
If you are able to fire resumes back to home country or Australia and you can get good opportunities elsewhere, do not waste your time here anymore. Our golden professional years are the ones between 25-40. If you achieve your freedom only after 40 you may find yourself in a bad shape. At 40 I must be well established professionally already.
One more thing:
We have been very lucky so far. God Forbidden, if there is one major terrorist attack in this country, you will see this Congress AND the American people with enough ammo to turn their big guns against us big time. Do you really think people will waste time with us? I am not saying that is going to happen, but I am saying if we spend our lives here and we do not take the opportunities back home, that may be a risky move indeed.
Guys,
We are like MLK of our modern times. Just observe that it may take a long time to change this. Actual outcome of our efforts may come to fruition in 10-20 years from now. It is the reality folks.
The only problem is that MLK was a US citizen. We are not. We have a very bad mood against us. Like it or not, to our disadvantage we have all sentiment against illegal immigration spilling over us as well. Let me tell you, I no longer discuss, comment or let Americans, not even close people know about my situation. Do you know why? People actually may not tell you, but the vast majority of Americans actually are delighted when we say we and our wives live with such restrictions.
My conclusion is this:
If you are able to fire resumes back to home country or Australia and you can get good opportunities elsewhere, do not waste your time here anymore. Our golden professional years are the ones between 25-40. If you achieve your freedom only after 40 you may find yourself in a bad shape. At 40 I must be well established professionally already.
One more thing:
We have been very lucky so far. God Forbidden, if there is one major terrorist attack in this country, you will see this Congress AND the American people with enough ammo to turn their big guns against us big time. Do you really think people will waste time with us? I am not saying that is going to happen, but I am saying if we spend our lives here and we do not take the opportunities back home, that may be a risky move indeed.
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syzygy
07-10 08:19 AM
Racial Discrimination Policy followed by USA Immigration
some suggestions on the content that we should put on the banners for the San
Some Quotes from famous people which might help in the rally:
There is nothing less to our credit than our neglect of the foreigner and his children, unless it be the arrogance most of us betray when we set out to ''Americanize'' him. Charles Horton Cooley 1864-1929, American Sociologist
We can add some thing personal below the above statement on the pamphlets
Everywhere immigrants have enriched and strengthened the fabric of American life.
--John F. Kennedy
PS: So Let it be �.
America was and is the immigrant's dream.
Don DeLillo
PS: Do not smash it by the incompetent immigration services
Remember, remember always, that all of us, and you and I especially, are descended from IMMIGRATIONs and revolutionists.
Franklin D. Roosevelt 1882-1945, Thirty-second President of the USA
ps:....
The divide of race has been America�s constant curse. They divide us by the country of origin and allocate the green card where in they have to look what an individual can offer to the country.
If you are an Indian or Chinese or Mexican rot for 11 years before you are accepted by the country as a permanent resident. This is what the Immigration law sounds like now.
�. hehehe my quotation
some suggestions on the content that we should put on the banners for the San
Some Quotes from famous people which might help in the rally:
There is nothing less to our credit than our neglect of the foreigner and his children, unless it be the arrogance most of us betray when we set out to ''Americanize'' him. Charles Horton Cooley 1864-1929, American Sociologist
We can add some thing personal below the above statement on the pamphlets
Everywhere immigrants have enriched and strengthened the fabric of American life.
--John F. Kennedy
PS: So Let it be �.
America was and is the immigrant's dream.
Don DeLillo
PS: Do not smash it by the incompetent immigration services
Remember, remember always, that all of us, and you and I especially, are descended from IMMIGRATIONs and revolutionists.
Franklin D. Roosevelt 1882-1945, Thirty-second President of the USA
ps:....
The divide of race has been America�s constant curse. They divide us by the country of origin and allocate the green card where in they have to look what an individual can offer to the country.
If you are an Indian or Chinese or Mexican rot for 11 years before you are accepted by the country as a permanent resident. This is what the Immigration law sounds like now.
�. hehehe my quotation
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gjoe
10-08 05:12 PM
No one is saying people are cutting the line. Most of us are saying USCIS is not processing cases on FIFO. Either you don't know the fact that USCIS approves cases in whatever order they are doing now or you are just pretending to be ignorant of the fact.
I don't know for whatever reason you don't see the fact what people are talking about here, but I don't blame you. If what people want here doesn't suit our case we may not like it. But please, just trying to beat around the bush is not going to help anyone here for that matter not just me alone.
You suggestion of sending flowers seems like that is the only solution to all the problems. I would say the reversal of the July 2 visa bulletine didn't just happen because of the flowers the members sent, the law suit AILA wanted to file against USCIS was one of the major reason apart from the California's Lawmakers letter. So please don't try to cut peoples idea by trying to belittle them, if you don't agree with them it is ok, if everyone agreed on the same thing life will be so dull.
gjoe/and others,
No one's trying to cut the line here. If there's any, it's purely procedural and has nothing to do with 'Ending Retrogression'. With or without retrogression someone might get an RFE, get stuck in namecheck etc. Ending retrogression provides earlier PDs better chances of getting GC faster (if dates are 'C' you get it the month you clear RFE, Name check etc.)
Just posting here isn't helping you cause. Instead you guys can get together and start sending flowers to USCIS director requesting him to publish the complete list of GC applications approved every year. It's the first step in enforcing FIFO. Right now there is no such list and no way of knowing who got their GC out of turn. And while you guys are at it also send some flowers to FBI to clear Namechecks FIFO, to DOL to approve PERM petitions FIFO etc.
Go spend those $50 at Flowers.com folks. Start writing to Senators, collect money, do the lobbying etc. Who's stopping you?
Or do you want logiclife, pappu and rest of the IV core to do it PRO BONO for you?
I don't know for whatever reason you don't see the fact what people are talking about here, but I don't blame you. If what people want here doesn't suit our case we may not like it. But please, just trying to beat around the bush is not going to help anyone here for that matter not just me alone.
You suggestion of sending flowers seems like that is the only solution to all the problems. I would say the reversal of the July 2 visa bulletine didn't just happen because of the flowers the members sent, the law suit AILA wanted to file against USCIS was one of the major reason apart from the California's Lawmakers letter. So please don't try to cut peoples idea by trying to belittle them, if you don't agree with them it is ok, if everyone agreed on the same thing life will be so dull.
gjoe/and others,
No one's trying to cut the line here. If there's any, it's purely procedural and has nothing to do with 'Ending Retrogression'. With or without retrogression someone might get an RFE, get stuck in namecheck etc. Ending retrogression provides earlier PDs better chances of getting GC faster (if dates are 'C' you get it the month you clear RFE, Name check etc.)
Just posting here isn't helping you cause. Instead you guys can get together and start sending flowers to USCIS director requesting him to publish the complete list of GC applications approved every year. It's the first step in enforcing FIFO. Right now there is no such list and no way of knowing who got their GC out of turn. And while you guys are at it also send some flowers to FBI to clear Namechecks FIFO, to DOL to approve PERM petitions FIFO etc.
Go spend those $50 at Flowers.com folks. Start writing to Senators, collect money, do the lobbying etc. Who's stopping you?
Or do you want logiclife, pappu and rest of the IV core to do it PRO BONO for you?
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glen
05-04 02:56 PM
I agree. Every little bit will help, when numbers are not moving at all.
I disagree a little bit - this will help people in EB3 indirectly
A lot of people in EB2 and EB3 can qualify for auto adjustment of status now, so it will remove people from EB3 queue making it smaller.
I disagree a little bit - this will help people in EB3 indirectly
A lot of people in EB2 and EB3 can qualify for auto adjustment of status now, so it will remove people from EB3 queue making it smaller.
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alterego
10-08 09:14 PM
None of this damn crap is fair. There are 3 lines in the green card queue. 1) Labor/PERM line, further subdivided on the basis of BEC, PERM, Employer willingness, exempt(NIW) etc. 2) the I-140 Line and 3) the I-485 line. These lines each have inconsistent patterns depending upon the winds of the day, a few years ago, LC/BEC lines were long, employers were less willing to sponsor green cards, and there was no I-140 PP processing, now all of a sudden PERM is there, PP of 140 came into being, and 485 became an eternal wait and country quotas came into being. For those that got screwed with BECs then PP 140 got removed when they were ready to file and now PD retrogressed into the stone age, it sure would seem like non sense for the guy who got PERM in 2 weeks, then PP 140 in 10 days and filed 485 in he July fiasco. Nevertheless you are only speaking in terms of degrees of getting screwed, since all are being done so by an unpredictable and unreliable system.
None of this damn crap is fair, we all know it. The only fair thing is for this country to decide who it wants and needs and sort them out ASAP. A wait of 2yrs, 5yrs or 10 yrs is immaterial, all of the above are ridiculous in EB immigration, degrees of unfairness is splitting hairs if you ask me. Up to 2 yrs is understandable, but beyond that implies a broken system which we need to lobby to fix. If we can all agree on that then, we have a platform to move forward with, otherwise we will get nowhere. When you average out the way most immigrants came to this land....................all of us are way more contributing and deserving, lets try to remind people of that as well as our future potential.
None of this damn crap is fair, we all know it. The only fair thing is for this country to decide who it wants and needs and sort them out ASAP. A wait of 2yrs, 5yrs or 10 yrs is immaterial, all of the above are ridiculous in EB immigration, degrees of unfairness is splitting hairs if you ask me. Up to 2 yrs is understandable, but beyond that implies a broken system which we need to lobby to fix. If we can all agree on that then, we have a platform to move forward with, otherwise we will get nowhere. When you average out the way most immigrants came to this land....................all of us are way more contributing and deserving, lets try to remind people of that as well as our future potential.
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desi3933
07-10 03:04 PM
Did you see I said "legally speaking?" If our attorneys answered Yes to the question you mentioned, then according to you they all lied, since "no H-1B job is permanent!"
I-140 is for future GC and hence, must be full time and permanent.
I-140 is not for current H-1B job.
You are mixing two things.
I-140 is for future GC and hence, must be full time and permanent.
I-140 is not for current H-1B job.
You are mixing two things.
saketkapur
05-10 05:26 PM
Guys life is not fair......the only way any media or congressional attention can be gained is by playing the age old tested and tried method shwon to work even if its a low blow..
DISCRIMINATION based on national origin......we need to make it about nationality and RACE........
The illegals are playing the card and most probably will get what they want........
Nobody gives a rats ass if we played by the rules or not.......rules change, games change...we need to take a more united(join forces with all immigrants irrespective of their status) and fight on a common platform.......we should get to make anybody who opposes us on whatever ground(justified or not) declared into a RACIST.......
Our opposition is not divided we cannot afford to be either.....remember JO JEETA WAHI SIKANDER.......Victory is all that counts....just my 2 cents........
DISCRIMINATION based on national origin......we need to make it about nationality and RACE........
The illegals are playing the card and most probably will get what they want........
Nobody gives a rats ass if we played by the rules or not.......rules change, games change...we need to take a more united(join forces with all immigrants irrespective of their status) and fight on a common platform.......we should get to make anybody who opposes us on whatever ground(justified or not) declared into a RACIST.......
Our opposition is not divided we cannot afford to be either.....remember JO JEETA WAHI SIKANDER.......Victory is all that counts....just my 2 cents........
go_guy123
02-02 10:33 AM
Love India, gave me the best time.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
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