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javadeveloper
07-20 02:15 PM
looivy, Please have a conversation and don't turn this into a pissing contest.
What the other post said is very true. We have 45000 members in this board, a significant majority of them are EB3. Even if 50% of the members 22000 (as an example ) contributed 25$ each, IV would have more than half a million bucks. With this money EB backlog plight could easily come out in mainstream media. Just because you, as a person, contributed does not mean all of EB people are contributing. Realizing our problem is the first step in solving it. Problem is people are not willing to contribute to IV, either their money or time, but want issues solved. Doesn't work that way..
Again the original poster is correct in his statement.
my .02$
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
What the other post said is very true. We have 45000 members in this board, a significant majority of them are EB3. Even if 50% of the members 22000 (as an example ) contributed 25$ each, IV would have more than half a million bucks. With this money EB backlog plight could easily come out in mainstream media. Just because you, as a person, contributed does not mean all of EB people are contributing. Realizing our problem is the first step in solving it. Problem is people are not willing to contribute to IV, either their money or time, but want issues solved. Doesn't work that way..
Again the original poster is correct in his statement.
my .02$
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
Saralayar
03-16 06:57 PM
some useful info from Ron gotcher
http://imminfo.com/Newsletter/2009-3/2009-03.html
I do not see any article related to the EB3 prediction in the URL link you have provided.
http://imminfo.com/Newsletter/2009-3/2009-03.html
I do not see any article related to the EB3 prediction in the URL link you have provided.
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nk2006
10-05 02:45 PM
nk2006,
please post contents of that yale article (your link is not working).
Try this: http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=33577
That article is too big, so I avoided copying. I am pasting some sections that discuss about future course below (again the article maily talks about h1b visas and how the lack of number is affecting foreign fresh grads, giving example of Ivy Legue colleges like Yale and Harvard):
Future of the H-1B program:
The H-1B visa issue might be slow to change because it is tied up in the larger debate over immigration reform, Yale-Loehr said.
"A lot of immigration issues are not being solved until the larger issues are solved," he said. "It's like anything in Congress - it takes a long time to pass a major bill that seems controversial."
In the past year, both the House and the Senate passed immigration reform bills, which are still pending in Congress. But the two bodies approached the issue of immigration reform in very different ways.
The House bill - passed last December - focused on the strengthening of border control, while the Senate bill - passed this past May - took a more comprehensive approach to immigration reform.
If enacted, the Senate bill would increase the number of H-1B visas to 115,000 for one year and use "a market-based calculation" to determine the cap for each subsequent year. The bill would also increase the quota by 20 percent if the previous year's quota is reached and would exempt aliens with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering or math from the H-1B limit.
The House bill, the Senate bill, or some compromise may be approved during Congress' lame-duck session after the general elections in November, Yale-Loehr said.
Schuck said he thinks the immigration debate is often more political than practical, and divisions do not necessarily fall along party lines.
"Immigration has strange political alliances," he said. "I would guess that there are a number of Democrats as well as some restrictionist Republicans who have supported the restriction of these visas."
The Bush administration has supported comprehensive immigration reform and increasing avenues for foreign workers to gain employment legally, according to CNN and the Washington Post, respectively.
Alumni differed on how much the H-1B shortage affected their lives. Some students, like Konieczny, said not receiving H-1B status was highly disruptive to their lives and future plans. But others said that while changing their plans was inconvenient, not getting a visa this year will not affect them greatly in the long-term.
"I am doing the same kind of job, just in a different office," Yue Zhou said.
Current international students must be aware of the H-1B visa quota and file their forms as soon as possible, alumni said.
"Apply early, as in April 1 early," Jarek Langer '06 said in an e-mail. "Do not wait until you get your diploma. It will be too late."
Bicalho said students should be proactive and involved in the application process.
"Take ownership over the process," Bicalho said. "Talk to the school's international office early so they can start working with you. � As soon as you have an offer, know who are the lawyers your firm will use and contact them so that you can work together."
please post contents of that yale article (your link is not working).
Try this: http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=33577
That article is too big, so I avoided copying. I am pasting some sections that discuss about future course below (again the article maily talks about h1b visas and how the lack of number is affecting foreign fresh grads, giving example of Ivy Legue colleges like Yale and Harvard):
Future of the H-1B program:
The H-1B visa issue might be slow to change because it is tied up in the larger debate over immigration reform, Yale-Loehr said.
"A lot of immigration issues are not being solved until the larger issues are solved," he said. "It's like anything in Congress - it takes a long time to pass a major bill that seems controversial."
In the past year, both the House and the Senate passed immigration reform bills, which are still pending in Congress. But the two bodies approached the issue of immigration reform in very different ways.
The House bill - passed last December - focused on the strengthening of border control, while the Senate bill - passed this past May - took a more comprehensive approach to immigration reform.
If enacted, the Senate bill would increase the number of H-1B visas to 115,000 for one year and use "a market-based calculation" to determine the cap for each subsequent year. The bill would also increase the quota by 20 percent if the previous year's quota is reached and would exempt aliens with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering or math from the H-1B limit.
The House bill, the Senate bill, or some compromise may be approved during Congress' lame-duck session after the general elections in November, Yale-Loehr said.
Schuck said he thinks the immigration debate is often more political than practical, and divisions do not necessarily fall along party lines.
"Immigration has strange political alliances," he said. "I would guess that there are a number of Democrats as well as some restrictionist Republicans who have supported the restriction of these visas."
The Bush administration has supported comprehensive immigration reform and increasing avenues for foreign workers to gain employment legally, according to CNN and the Washington Post, respectively.
Alumni differed on how much the H-1B shortage affected their lives. Some students, like Konieczny, said not receiving H-1B status was highly disruptive to their lives and future plans. But others said that while changing their plans was inconvenient, not getting a visa this year will not affect them greatly in the long-term.
"I am doing the same kind of job, just in a different office," Yue Zhou said.
Current international students must be aware of the H-1B visa quota and file their forms as soon as possible, alumni said.
"Apply early, as in April 1 early," Jarek Langer '06 said in an e-mail. "Do not wait until you get your diploma. It will be too late."
Bicalho said students should be proactive and involved in the application process.
"Take ownership over the process," Bicalho said. "Talk to the school's international office early so they can start working with you. � As soon as you have an offer, know who are the lawyers your firm will use and contact them so that you can work together."
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pitha
07-08 06:16 PM
As I said dont just take the example I gave, consider all the visa bulletin for the last 30+ years and you will fidn a lot of examples.
Pitha -- you forget one very important thing -- they still wasted 10K visas in 2006. So in Aug and July they had not actually consumed all the visas -- they just expected to in August and didn't manage to.
Pitha -- you forget one very important thing -- they still wasted 10K visas in 2006. So in Aug and July they had not actually consumed all the visas -- they just expected to in August and didn't manage to.
mgautam
07-03 10:04 AM
This is a superb idea. I am game for it. Someone in the DC Area will also need to coordiante press releases to media so there is coverage for this.
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suriajay12
02-27 07:51 AM
Folks,
Its good to see this thread is still active. I just came home after 30 hrs non-stop work due to our product launch. I did go through quickly on all the posts after my post and I really didnt get the point I was looking for. I will respond to each of you tomorrow in one post.
The response I see for any type of campaign in the form of contributions is pathetic, based on the number of people waiting and those who are active. We will go nowhere, but this must change, and we will help.
I will now have to sleep for 5 hrs and then go back.
Thanks,
Its good to see this thread is still active. I just came home after 30 hrs non-stop work due to our product launch. I did go through quickly on all the posts after my post and I really didnt get the point I was looking for. I will respond to each of you tomorrow in one post.
The response I see for any type of campaign in the form of contributions is pathetic, based on the number of people waiting and those who are active. We will go nowhere, but this must change, and we will help.
I will now have to sleep for 5 hrs and then go back.
Thanks,
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eb3_nepa
07-06 09:44 AM
DEAD FISH DEAD FISH!! :p
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blacktongue
11-18 01:39 PM
I will donate 100 dollars if they make any changes in DREAM Act wrt to Employment based immigration.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
To who?
And why only $100?
Is Greencard $100 worth for you?
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
To who?
And why only $100?
Is Greencard $100 worth for you?
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pappu
07-21 10:08 AM
IV will have more money to do advocacy events like the one that just happened. More media spending, more coverage.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
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deepak
09-10 07:58 PM
YOu are a USELESS fellow. Thats right.. Immigration voice core are the ones who are doing whatever they can for you thankless idiots like YOU!!
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
I am trying to put this as honestly as possible. And trust me, there is no sarcasm here, I am just curious, if you hate to so much, why exactly DO you read posts like these?
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
I am trying to put this as honestly as possible. And trust me, there is no sarcasm here, I am just curious, if you hate to so much, why exactly DO you read posts like these?
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jackisback
05-07 05:11 PM
Has any one in the forum here have a FP notice for a 4 and half year child during the 485 process. I ask this question as my daughter did not get one.
Feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Yes, I got a FP notice for my daughter as she was born in India; and I had applied 485 for her as well.
She was 4 and a half years in Nov 07 when we got the notice. I am a July-Aug 07 filer.
Her FP notice came for a separate date though, diff from my wife's and mine.
I wd suggest you to call USCIS/ur attorney and check.
Hope that helps.
Feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Yes, I got a FP notice for my daughter as she was born in India; and I had applied 485 for her as well.
She was 4 and a half years in Nov 07 when we got the notice. I am a July-Aug 07 filer.
Her FP notice came for a separate date though, diff from my wife's and mine.
I wd suggest you to call USCIS/ur attorney and check.
Hope that helps.
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Ashok
05-23 11:54 AM
Sent emails to 2+10 senators.
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eb3_nepa
12-11 07:29 PM
Totally agreed that quota increase is controversial and an alternative approach must be agreed upon - 1932, CIR and now SKIL has taught us that bitter lesson. I am not by any means questioning the wisdom of going after the low-hanging fruits like 485 filing etc. All I am saying is - we cannot assume everything else remains the same. Things like 485 filing etc are our niche goals - no corporate interest is served by that and in a brutally capitalistic country thats a huge disadvantage.The fact is ANY relief, whether it includes quota increase or not, still takes a lot of lobbying and money to introduce all on its own strength.Yours and mine promotion/career prospects are the least of the lawmakers' worries, however non-controversial it may be and however deserving we may be. The need of the hour is to increase our membership base and contributions - lets face it, 200k in funds is not going to get us too far on our own steam. If 6000 of us could achieve so much in an year, imagine what 100k will do. That way we will be a credible enough force to be heard and respected. It still beats me how we have only 6000 odd members despite the dire situation that the majority of EB applicants find themselves in since 2001.
Dixie, I am not denying that lobbying takes effort time and money. So far however we HAVE convinced the lawmakers about our plight. All I am saying is, we should ask for provisions that our anti-immigrant friends will possibly not object strongly to. It is not simply a matter of promotions and career advancement anymore. It is the fact that our lives are tied to one job and that God forbid should something happen to that job we are outta here. The IV core team already has points about the same and have been meeting lawmakers regularly. My point here is that maybe it is time to take a little step back and realize that at this stage just having yearly EADs is SO MUCH of a blessing for both the individual AND the spouse (if applicable). Like someone on here mentioned, IV was formed because of Retrogression NOT because of GC delays.
Dixie, I am not denying that lobbying takes effort time and money. So far however we HAVE convinced the lawmakers about our plight. All I am saying is, we should ask for provisions that our anti-immigrant friends will possibly not object strongly to. It is not simply a matter of promotions and career advancement anymore. It is the fact that our lives are tied to one job and that God forbid should something happen to that job we are outta here. The IV core team already has points about the same and have been meeting lawmakers regularly. My point here is that maybe it is time to take a little step back and realize that at this stage just having yearly EADs is SO MUCH of a blessing for both the individual AND the spouse (if applicable). Like someone on here mentioned, IV was formed because of Retrogression NOT because of GC delays.
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Lisap
08-26 05:10 PM
I mailed my 2nd application (1st one was mailed in late June my attorney filed too soon as I was not current in June) on Aug 14th and it was received at NSC on the morning of the 15th. I 140 filed at TSC and was approved in July 2006. No checks cashed and No Receipt as of yet....
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zoooom
07-19 07:39 PM
Done
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
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delhiguy
07-07 08:58 AM
Delhiguy you are right and dont participate in any protest some of the members are making, have fun with your family, if you have any, and chill out. dont worry what others are doing
USCIS and gov make laws and break laws we dont have right to ask, but when we got hurt we should make them know how did they hurt us so that they will not do that to future immigrants, that's it.
I am doing things, which i could have done , I am sorry if my views collided with yours ,
USCIS and gov make laws and break laws we dont have right to ask, but when we got hurt we should make them know how did they hurt us so that they will not do that to future immigrants, that's it.
I am doing things, which i could have done , I am sorry if my views collided with yours ,
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smuggymba
11-17 06:38 PM
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akhilmahajan
02-10 10:39 AM
Thanks a lot gc28262.
Grand Total - $944
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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Grand Total - $944
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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joydiptac
07-21 04:02 PM
I am not interested to pursue this, nor do I have the ability to lead this effort. Plus I am very happy with the effort and the work IV is doing. Which is not for a specific category but a more general appeal. I support that.
But for those who are interested - EB3 (India and ROW). The way USCIS is interpreting the law of spillover, can be easily challenged, because this goes against the spirit of the law. If EB2 and EB1 were to be given special preference at the I485 stage, then clearly they would have been allotted a larger quota to start with. should be a strong enough case for a Class Action Law Suit. Looking at the times that some people have been waiting and are expected to wait this is clearly an option to try out. IV or without IV. :)
But for those who are interested - EB3 (India and ROW). The way USCIS is interpreting the law of spillover, can be easily challenged, because this goes against the spirit of the law. If EB2 and EB1 were to be given special preference at the I485 stage, then clearly they would have been allotted a larger quota to start with. should be a strong enough case for a Class Action Law Suit. Looking at the times that some people have been waiting and are expected to wait this is clearly an option to try out. IV or without IV. :)
Abhinaym
11-17 03:23 PM
Not to nitpick, but "inside of the US" sounds odd. It is simpler to say "in the US".
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